Polling suggests that the Catholic vote helped Trump win in 2016 and helped Biden win in 2020. Biden is also the most church-going president by far. With issues like immigration and abortion high on the agenda for voters, where will the Catholic vote land? And how important is the idea of being culturally Catholic compared with political religiosity? Ryan Girdursky, founder of the 1776 Project PAC and the National Populist Substack — and Catholic — joins Freddy Gray to discuss.